Listen: Sam chats with Rachel Bowes from Lifeline

We say the Lifeline number all the time on the radio so Hope Breakfast’s Sam Robinson pulled back the veil and found out what happens when you actually dial 13 11 14.

Rachel Bowes, Head of Crisis Services at Lifeline Australia, explained that it’s OK to call if you’re not in a critical state of mind, and you’re just feeling lonely.

“Crisis is determined by the person experiencing it, not by us,” Rachel said.

“So we would never say someone’s reasons are not justified. If someone feels they have nowhere else to turn, they should call us. Talking about things at the start of a problem often helps resolve it before things get critical.”

Rachel said Lifeline’s volume of calls is around 3500 a day and there’s been an increase since the bushfires in 2020 and, off the back of that, the COVID-19 pandemic.

Listen to the full conversation Rachel Bowes in the player above.

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Ally Barnes

Ally Barnes

Ally Barnes is a former Breakfast host at Hope 103.2 with a background in radio and television production, including experience at Sky News. She is now the host of Ally & Mates, a fun and faith-filled podcast for kids aged 4–8 that helps little listeners explore God’s world through inspiring true stories and fun facts.

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